Subject: Fwd: Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 18:44:39 EST From: DoyleEW@aol.com To: dawntorrence@cherubs-cdh.org And this is the one with the horrid thing on the bottom. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:10:38 EST From: DoyleEW@aol.com To: Please read your own words - and I don't think these were from the Bible: OK I have to put my 2 cents in here( and here I go again on the BIble thing!)I did watch John Edwards also. He does have a real gift and it is so intoxicating because we have all lost someone we want to communicate with. I dream of the day when I see Grace again. OK Just like God is real, so is satan. In fact satan believes in God.John states in his book, one of the 1st lines that he 'sees' 2 men, who are his 'guides'. These 'guides' can be anyone, anything, any spirit. I have seen people who have spoken to the dead and the 1st thing they say is that this is in glory of the Father. I believe the Bible says that as well. John does in fact see or talk to the dead thru these guides. I have no doubt. But once he 'opens the door' so to speak, any spirit can enter. And that spirit can not be a very good one. The devil sees everything God does. I know this might sound stupid but every night I bind satan from entering my home, touching my children and binding satan from around my home. ( the Bible says that 'what I bind here on earth will be bound in heaven') I know religion is a touchy subject but the Bible says over and over that charmins, horoscopes, believing in the stars( for guidance) is worshiping other Gods. John IS a charmin, a very good one, not bad looking, a regular guy. That's what satan wants..to use regular people to 'con' us......I think alot of you know that there are false prophets and the book of Revelation talks about it alot. At the end of times, which many believe is now,there will be more and more people coming out claiming be able to do things like this. I want more then anything to speak to my child, too. But I have to believe she is with God, and waiting for me. I don't need John Edward or Miss Cleo telling me she is OK. I know that in my heart. And I do believe in angels, the Bible is FULL of them. I believe they are around us, protecting us. But as for John , he is not going to tell you guys something you already know. Please guys, reconsider before watching him.He isn't going to tell you anything you already know in your heart! Lise mom to Grace Then there was this response to Dawns Post which was totally unnecessary: I will not join the chat. I do not need a medium, however "good" she is, to tell me anything I don't already know about my child. I KNOW she is with her Creator. LISE And this was your post about tatoos: From: mdilll2@j... Date: Mon Feb 25, 2002 11:21 am Subject: Re: [cherubs2] Tattoos ADVERTISEMENT Dawnn, Mark and I also thought of getting a tattoo. He actually, who is petrified of needles, said he was thinking of getting one of a heart w/ Grace's name. I said we should both get matching ones over our heart...but I LOVE the symbolism of Tigger. I have always felt that Tigger was Grace's sign. The up's and Downs of his Bouncy-bouncy-bouncy thing is great! I also thought if we get a small heart ,the kids, when they are old enough ,can get matching ones as well. Lise mom to Grace You see I don't see any quotes from the Bible - I see your interpretation and your version as it suits you! I held my tongue, and kept holding it. You don't know how much I wished and wanted to post something that would set your holier than thou attitude back where it belongs - on your butt. What you have done is offended people by telling them they are wrong and we are going against God as you interpret him. We all have our own interpretations Lise, you should keep it OFF this list. I don't need to be saved either. :-) Why do you think Dawn postes that about the chat as she did? Of the whole listserv there are only a few that seem to vocalize their objections. And you seem to be the one that really vocalizes it. I am ending this right here. I now know why I didn't bother responding to you - it isn't worth my time or breath. You offended me and several others that happen to believe or feel they have some sort of gift. But you don't see it that way - as you claim, you quote the bible - I didn't see any direct quote. Elizabeth, Proud Mom of Cecilia Winn Propst (who Lise probably thinks is burning in hell)