Subject: Re: hi Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 18:53:35 EDT From: DoyleEW@aol.com To: dawntorrence@cherubs-cdh.org Dawn, Back in January, Kat posted when she was feeling very down and she mentioned Laura's website for Sarah that she said something when offered "termination" as an option that Laura wrote, she just couldn't do that. (Which I responded privately to Kat that I understand how she felt - and Cecilia's site had something like that I wrote too - BUT had something like Tricosomy been also diagnosed I would have probably chosen the route that Kat and Melani did too - but it is still grief.) Lise apparently - at that time posted and also privately emailed Kat too - offending her further. I don't know what was said in the personal emails but as you know, with Lise sometimes. I don't know what this was an attempt at. I have not corresponded with Lise and have done nothing (that I know of) to post anything offensive. When everything came to head - I apologized to Dawnn that I was sorry if the listserv became unbearable because of me. I think it would be best - if Kat isn't offended - to let it go. Kat just knows that I defended her and Melanie to the hilt when they joined and then some were emailing them about how what they did was wrong. I think she just wanted to know if she did the right thing? I don't know. I'm just very careful of Lise. For a long time I kept her as a "friend" because as that, I could keep myself from the cattiness so to say. I just felt you should be aware of it. This and I also noticed that whenever Kat posted - it seemed as if Lise posted there to object or change any subject Kat posted? Maybe I'm reading too much into it. I just thought you should be aware. Also, I'm not that objective when it comes to this - so if I'm dead wrong just let me have it. I just feel that I should be "on guard" whenever it comes to Lise. Probably true in a sense. Sorry this junk keeps coming up - but better like this that the way it was! But my new philosophy is "A mind is like an umbrella - it is useless unless opened - and there are some umbrellas out there that are not worth having." Hugs - and hopes that you land a great job! Elizabeth